Monday, July 10, 2006

P90X Review

I feel it's probably time I posted my review of P90X, since I have gotten a lot of emailed questions on it. (Edit: Ultimate Fitness has contacted me to offer a coupon to everyone for $5 off the program. The code to input at check-out is: smw5off)

I initially started off with the standard P90X, and then switched to P90X Lean (in order to not beat up my husband, due to some scheduling issues.) Because I have done a big portion of both versions, I feel I can offer a pretty well rounded report on it.

The first thing I want to establish is a reminder of where I have come from over the past...Oh.... Eight years. I went from sedentary (220+ lbs), to cardio bunny (mostly tae-bo), to weight training, and then on to the serious fitness freak that you see before you today. I did NOT start this program after getting up off my couch one day and deciding it was the one for me.

This program is NOT a good starting point for ANYONE. I am speaking most directly to those men, and you know who you are, who regardless of your actual fitness level, assume that you can handle anything at any level, simply because of your testosterone and Y chromosome. I'm married to one of these "I can do anything" types, and trust me: he tried P90X, suffered, and dropped it - and he isn't a completely unfit guy either.

If you are interested in P90X, male or female - drop the ego and take their fitness test. For REAL. It will replace your normal workout, because it takes about 40 minutes. It's not a marketing gimmick, it's a necessary thing you should do. Because, if you can't hit everything you need to on the fitness test, you not only aren't ready for P90X, but you might cause yourself injury if you try it.

Now that I have scared everyone off, lets back up for a minute. It's not THAT bad, but you do need a certain higher level of core fitness in order to start in on this program. If you don't have that, there are a lot of places to start. If you have a long way to go, I recommend a doctor's clearance and then daily walks and body weight moves (like push-ups, sit-ups, etc), ramping up to a harder regimen. I also highly recommend Body For Life (NOT NOT NOT BFL for Women, that book is a total waste of good paper, and Eating for life is a good MAINTENANCE cookbook, but not so hot for an actual plan - and by the way, all the success photos/stories in the cookbook are from the ORIGINAL BFL plan, not EFL), but as the ORIGINAL plan was intended. Ignore the "official" website, and all the stupid tweaks people have tried to twist it with. Half.com has a ton of cheap copies ($1.37 when last I checked), so it won't even cost you much to look into it. Once you have completed that, you may or may not be ready for something like P90X, but you can try the fitness test again and find out where your weaknesses are.

The system is a set of DVD workouts which involve a ton of body-weight moves (like push-ups, pull-ups, plyometric moves, etc) as well as cardio and weight training cycles. The equipment you will require is a large enough space to go bouncing about in all directions without causing serious injury or property damage, free-weights of varying sizes, a chin-up bar/station, a yoga mat and blocks, and some people also use bands, as well as push-up bars (optional.)

**A note about the bands - I bought a set from Walmart. I snapped those suckers in half. They stink, don't buy them from Walmart or any of the other major retailers. You need a set of HIGH quality bands if you are going to be using them. I do not know if the set they sell through the Beachbody website are high quality or not, but you can try them or a serious fitness retailer. You need at least a medium weighted resistance band and the heaviest one they have (to mimic pull-ups if you can't do them.)

Personally, I have an interchangeable set of dumbbells with plates. This worked out OK, but there were times I had to hit the pause button because I couldn't get it set up quickly enough. If you have the cash (which I do not), I highly recommend PowerBlocks. I also have a Power-Tower station for the pull-ups. You can buy a standard chin-up bar from a major retailer for about $6, or you can invest in their fancy junglebar version for about $40. My power tower ($70) was a personal "I gotta HAVE IT!" freak-out, so it's not necessary. I just wanted a station that was good for not only pull-ups, but dips, leg raises and other exercises. Yes, I know, fitness freak. But for P90X , you only need the pull-up station, with the ability to do both wide and close handed grips.

The actual workouts range from a plyometric workout, core and cardio, to several weight/target area workouts (like legs & back, or shoulders & arms, etc). There is also a 90 minute Yoga session which you do every week, as well as a cardio workout of Kenpo. My favorite of all the workouts is the Kenpo, because I'm a sucker for anything that involves fighting moves - serious or not. I also value the yoga that has been incorporated because it has helped with some flexibility issues I was struggling with. Since the yoga also comes dead center of the week, it also relieves some tightness that you end up acquiring through the earlier workouts.

The weight workouts are good because there isn't a ton of monotony. You have a lot of different exercises you move through, and you never get bored because of that. The pull-ups aren't as bad as they sound. Yes, they're HARD. Yes, you end up doing a LOT of them. But there are ways to "spot" yourself, and assist with the pull-up until you can switch over to doing them without assistance. The DVD does show you how to do this, even expects you to. If you are interested in just learning about how to get your body doing pull-ups, Stumtuous.com has a whole "how-to" for you to get in gear.

I would say the workout I hate the most is the plyometrics, closely followed by the core synergistics. Why? Because plyo is HARD, people! Doesn't mean it's not worth doing. If anything, it's because it's hard that it's worth doing. Though, I admit that near the end of one of the workouts, I looked up to see the instructor doing a push-up where he brought his whole body into the air off the ground (feet and hands) and clapped in mid air, before coming down and doing it again - I almost took off my shoe and threw it at the screen.

The instructor, Tony Horton, is a good looking 40-something guy with a great attitude. Admittedly, at first I found him slightly grating. But I think that was because I have a lot of preconceived notions about DVD workouts, and their instructors. OK, they're not preconceived notions, we're talking outright hostility. If I had to endure another energizer-wind-up-pink-lollipop- cotton-candy-fluffy-should -be-tossed-out-of-a-plane instructor, I was going to lose it. Thank goodness this wasn't the case. Once I was able to understand the rhythm of his sense of humor, I was fine. Honestly, I think he's probably one of the best motivational exercise instructors I have ever seen.

However, for those who don't agree, the DVD's come with the options to play the workout with either the music or the instructor, or both muted and just have it give you your cues on the exercises. So far, I haven't done either, which was a total shock considering my propensity for a lack of patience in this area.

On certain days, you are expected to tack on the 16 minute "Ab Ripper" routine. This thing sucks. Sorry to use the language, but...Well... OW. Necessary, but OW. I also found that I have next to NO patience for tacking it on right after a regular workout. After 60 minutes of lifting weights and doing pull-ups, the last thing I want to do is look at some fresh-faced bunch of people and kill myself with an ab routine. So, what I have done instead is to tack it on later in the day. I'm MUCH happier with this arrangement, and it allows me to draft my husband into doing it with me. It's so much more enjoyable to hear someone else cussing and whining through a workout, than yourself.

These workouts are hard-core, but they're also geared for your own level. Basically, you will get out of this what you put into it. If you go through this DVD workout like a pansie: only lifting low amounts when you could lift more and doing half-hearted moves when you should be taking it to the mat - well, then you'll only get a blah workout and blah results. But if you hit it with the intensity you KNOW you have, and you work HARD and focused, you will get solid results. The upside to all of this is that it's an unlimited challenge. You keep pushing yourself harder and higher, and you will always be challenged by this workout (which is why I think you don't see many used ones for sale, they're definitely a permanent addition to my DVD library.) But, if you decide to be a slacker, then it's likely the best you'll do is whine that it's not enough and "whyyyyyyyy" doesn't it work for you like it does for everyone else?

This is like life, people. You want it? You gotta put in the effort. Plain and simple. It's a shut-up and put-up situation. In the end, you have the map - if you don't make it there, you have no one but yourself to blame.

From a personal trainer standpoint, I really appreciate that there is a real, serious, intense workout available like this. 99% of the video workouts out there are too weak for me, no matter how much effort I put into it. I think what makes this such a challenging set is because it has so many different types of exercise involved, as well as the open ended room to increase your own intensity level. After these workouts, I actually FEEL like I have worked out. In the case of all the other DVD workouts I have tried, I felt as if I hadn't done enough.

The regular version/schedule is six days of workouts (all different, except the added Ab-Ripper on three days), and then a day of rest (or you can do the stretching DVD which isn't included during the week.) Every three weeks, it changes over to a recovery week. While you still do six workouts, they aren't the weight training ones, so it is a little bit of a break. Not much, but enough. Then it changes to a different line up for three weeks, followed by another recovery week, and again for the last four resulting in a full 13 week program.

P90X also has a version called doubles, which is essentially the regular schedule plus doing the 40 minute CardioX workout (which you only see during the recovery week or on the Lean version) several extra times during the week. I have to tell you straight out that this would drive me INSANE. Doing the P90X Lean version, you do the CardioX workout every week, replacing one of the weight training sessions. If I had to see that cardio DVD that often I would probably lose it. The obvious alternative, however, is simply to add your own cardio workout of about 50 minutes to those days as your extra workout. They're just offering the basic option with their doubles plan, without having to figure out a different workout without guidance.

The program also comes with an eating plan. I will tell you straight that the plan is maintenance level as far as calories go for MOST people. If you are thinking about losing a lot of weight, the eating plan is too much. It's the right kinds of food, and I 100% approve of the layout, it's the quantity verses goal.

*If you are wanting to gain mass, it might be enough calories, or a little low for a male. For a female it might be enough. However, I would like to point out that P90X isn't a muscle-mass increasing routine. It WILL build some muscle, make no mistake, but it is more about power. P90X is about creating strength with what you have, and refining it. Power over size, for all intensive purposes.

* If you want to maintain, I suggest you follow their eating plan as it's laid out. However, I would suggest you monitor your levels of body fat, measurements and scale weight to see if you should add calories or subtract them.

* If you are trying to LOSE weight, this is where things get tricky. The calories are a bit high for women (for men, I would start with it and then adjust as necessary) and I would probably start off about 100-300 calories less than the plan equates to on a daily basis. HOWEVER, you need to understand that these workouts are power oriented workouts. They demand a great deal from your body, not only to rise to the occasion with the proper intensity, but also in the matter of recovery afterwards. If you drop your calories too low, you will wipe yourself OUT. Your workouts will suffer, you will get less results, and frankly, you will just feel AWFUL. So, on the angle of a cutting program, this one walks a fine line.

One of the reasons I chose the P90X Lean version of the schedule was so I could actively pursue the weight loss side of it. It IS easier than the regular version, and obviously less demanding than the Doubles. But even so, it is a demanding routine on the body. Because of that, there is no room for error. You must fuel your body at the appropriate times, or you will feel it. You cannot skip meals, because it will tank you.

Now, one last thing to be clear on. If you are after visible results, you need to understand that those are 80% rooted in your kitchen. What you feed yourself, how much, and when are absolutely KEY. There is no workout, or pill, or magic wand that will enable you to get around this fact. If you don't eat right, you will not see what you are working so hard for. You will experience an increase in strength/power, you will probably even feel better, but you won't SEE it, OR feel as good as you COULD if you did right by your body in the kitchen. You want to see your abs? You could do a million crunches, and it won't make a damn bit of difference if you are eating in excess and the wrong things. It's the one hard fact that people want to deny, yet can never truly do so.

You want to be fit? You gotta do the work. You want to LOOK fit? You gotta do the work AND eat right. It's that simple, it really IS that black and white. No if's, and's or but's.

So, to the point: I like the workout. I like the food plan. And I even like the instructor and his presentation of the whole plan. Oh, one technical note, though - the whole thing is kind of dark. Not that it isn't shot well, it is. It's just that the room it was shot in is dark toned, and there are often shadows in the background which leads to an even darker appearance. This was probably on purpose since it allowed you to 100% focus on the instructor who stood out well against this background. However, it did make it tough to see sometimes because of the glare of lights in my own room against the television, regardless of where the lighting came from (above, or from a lamp or window, etc.) Don't misunderstand me, it's not a poor quality recording at ALL. And hey, maybe it's just me.

If you are now interested in P90X, Ultimate Fitness Gear has contacted me to offer a coupon to everyone for $5 off the program. The code to input at check-out is: smw5off


Edit 2/2008: I have recently been able to try out two of the nutritional supplements many had asked me about, this link is my review of them.

Edit: I wrote this review in July 2006, and recently it has been getting a lot of traffic. I still stand by everything I said. I am not affiliated with Beachbody. Up until now I had been taking questions, but it is becoming more than I can keep up with, so I won't be answering any more. Please see if your question has already been answered in the comments. Thank you!

69 comments:

Anonymous said...

Nice (very detailed) overview of P90X.

I'm currently in my third round. I cannot do all of Ab Ripper as it bothers my back, so I do what I can then add to it.

There are also certain yoga poses I cannot do because my legs are too short. I've actually hurt my back by trying to follow the yoga video as it is done.

The back injury lead me bringing the P90X book to my doctor who said that P90X is hardcore, but as long as I don't go beyond my limits, he is cool with it although he would have preferred that I work with a trainer.

He (my doctor) has also injured himself by trying to do the same yoga move that I was trying to do. His legs are short like mine, so he cannot lay on the floor and rest his feet over his head on the floor either. My back took about same time ( about 4 months) to heal as his did.

While the back injury healed and I haven't had any problem with it since, I still remain cautious with certain moves because it's no fun to be down due to back pain.

People need to put their egos aside and modify when it is needed. Not everybody is the same height with the same body build.

I compare myself to a German Tank. How lady like... *rolls eyes* I have short, bulky legs with short bulky arms to match. When I gain weight (fat) it all appears in my waist. As long as I behave myself, I drop the excess pounds fairly easily, but I'm still bulky to some degree. I was never meant to look like a twig and just just doing cardio leaves me looking skinny fat.

For those of you that question Kyra's post ( I know you wouldn't do that anyway...right?) take her thoughts on the X seriously. It can really hurt a person if they are not careful.

Stacy

Maggie said...

I've written similar things (albeit not in nearly as much detail!) about P90X as Kyra's review. If you've been training for a while (the minimum 12 week BFL program mentioned is a good base), are already athletic, or do regular military style PT (which P90X reminds me of), take the fitness test and see if you are up for the challenge.

If you can't handle most of the minimum requirements in the fitness test, you will NOT get your time or money's worth out of P90X because you won't be able to perform the exercises with sufficient intensity and repetitions to benefit.

I am not kidding.

10 kneelie girl push-ups and one assisted pull-up do NOT a good Back and Chest workout make.

I love the program and will always keep it in my workout library along with Yoga for Athletes and Yourself Fitness, but I definitely would not have been ready for P90X back in May 2004 before my first BFL challenge and don't recommend it as a beginner's fat loss solution at all.

As the Beachbody reps on the BB forums have told me, P90X is a total fitness program for those who are already fit. The diet is therefore not designed for significant weight loss. The reason the calorie recommendation for women is a borderline maintenance of 1800/day is because they assume you are already within 5 lbs of ideal weight (if not already there) and are doing the program to increase overall fitness, not to drop from a size 18 to a size 4.

Oh, and I stand by my previous opinion that the leg workouts will need to be supplemented with heavier weights and exercises like squats and leg presses if you want to increase muscle mass in that area. If you've got the chicken leg thing going on due to genetics or unbalanced training in your past, don't expect P90X to fix it. ;)

- Maggie

tharris said...

Thanks for the detailed analysis of the P90X. It's always good to hear a third-party talking about a product. Your insight has confirmed my decision to purchase the DVDs. I'll be back in 90 days (or 90 days after I get the DVDs) and give you my thoughts.

Anonymous said...

How much did you end up paying for the system? Currently they want $140 ($120 + $20 shipping). I talked to a rep over the phone and they didn't seem interested in making a deal at all.

They only offered me two extra DVD for paying for the whole system at once instead of making three monthly payments.

Any pointers on what to ask for?

Savy said...

I believe I ended up paying about $115 + shipping. I would mention to them that you KNOW they discount it for others, and you would like the same. After all, it's your money - and if they're willing to sell it for less, they SHOULD sell it to you for that as well.

I don't know what the two extra DVD thing is, I wasn't ever offered anything like that. Other people have gotten other discounts or other things thrown in, so I know it varies by caller.

Just be upfront and blunt and ask for a discount. That's the best I can offer as far as advice. I would say out of my whole experience with them, this was the most irritating thing, I felt like I was dealing with a slippery buying situation (not bad, just haggling, which I HATE with a passion - it annoys me. If you can sell it for less, you should then, instead of making people wheel and deal.) But the program as a whole I HAVE been happy with. In retrospect, if I had to pay the extra bit of money I suppose it would have been worth it, but using the money I saved on bands or a pull-up area is more beneficial to me personally.

Good luck!

Anonymous said...

Just curious ... I am already fit (spin instructor etc.) but I'm looking for something to fit into a super busy schedule. Is it a firm 6 day a week thing. I'm ready to pack in a POWER 40 4 times a week. This sounds very regimented. Thanks for the great input on this program - it was just what I was looking for! staci

Savy said...

Staci - yes, it's a firm 6 day a week thing. It requires a significant amount of time dedicated to it, which is one of the reasons I'm not launching into another round of it right now (I'm in college full time, etc.) If I find my schedule is moving along nicely, I might give it another round then, but not until I know I can handle the time commitment. If you are super busy, well, I can't speak for you - but you will need at LEAST an hour per day (yoga days, once a week are over 90 minutes long) for the 6 days every single week. On one hand, you don't have to drive to the gym. But it really does take that long.

Good luck, whatever you decide!

Anonymous said...

Is the nutrition guide somewhat of a cookbook with recipies, or is it possible for a person who does not really cook to follow?

Savy said...

The nutrition guide should be very easy for anyone to follow - it's broken down into a lot of options, and that's the key. You'll have your selections that you can make, and then you get to decide how to meet the requirements suggested (for example, it'll tell you how many "servings" of fruit, and then you can look at the suggestions both convenience and cooking, or whatnot.) It also has example meal plans that you can follow if you like, or plug in your own choices to meet the reccomended requirements.

The nutrition section has different "Phases" where it combines different values of protein, carbs and fats. Depending on your phase and requirements, you then can choose various foods or recipes from the book, it even has an eating out section with options for various popular restaurants.

In short, yes, it's possible to follow for a person who doesn't cook. I would say, however, that ANY healthy eating plan can get REALLY boring when you don't spend at least some time in the kitchen, because healthy foods that you don't spend time on are not as numerous as the processed foods that surround us everyday. In order to avoid boredom, and eat great tasting things, a bit of effort is necessary. If you are someone who isn't affected by food boredom, you won't have any problem not cooking.

Me, I don't like being bored with food - I LIKE good meals. But I do NOT like spending my time in the kitchen. So, I tend to "bulk cook", meaning I'll make up about a week's worth of foods and store them, so I can "grab and go". Planning ahead, even if you don't cook this way, is essential to not making a bad choice of skipping a meal or grabbing something convenient and unhealthy. It's my #2 suggestion to anyone out there who wants to become healthier. (My #1 is to just do it, don't think about it, don't worry over it, just stop all the chatter and do it. Nike, of course, beat me to that slogan. ;)

I hope that answers your question. It's a plan, a list of options, a cookbook, and more.

malibio said...

Before buying into this program, can I do the fitnes test? Or is the test in the program/dvd? Is there a link to the fitness test somewhere? Thanks all!

Savy said...

The fitness test is on their site, and yes you can take it for free. I linked it in my post, but here is the raw link:

http://www.beachbody.com/text/content/products/p90x/email_aboutp90x_foryou.html

And the download in adobe (pdf file): http://www.beachbody.com/images/us/local/products/p90x/p90xFitTest.pdf

Gymrat29 said...

Well, thanks for this info. I'll be starting the P90X soon as I get it. I just want to tighten up some more. Although, I didn't get any discount as I did ask for it with an online rep. They didn't offer me anything for paying it all at once and I even threatened to not even buy it but they didn't give me any perks at all. Not sure if it would have been different if I called but whatever. It does tick me off that they offer that to some and not others even if you ask?

hixey said...

Thank you, thank you for the post. I wish someone with this kind of honesty and commitment to actually helping people wrote for the site itself. This helped me decide what to do. I have been lifting in the gym for about 5 years now, and HATE it there. Guess I am not the social butterfly my mother always wanted. And though I have usually had good results when I am extremely dedicated. I usually spent 2 hours there and an hour to get there and home in traffic. ugh... I think this might be for me. Thanks again for being so very helpful.

Anonymous said...

Hi Savy,

Thanks for all the great info. At the end of the fitness test, the recommendation for those of us not quite ready for the X, is the Power90 program. Any comment on that program?

Savy said...

Hi Anon! Unfortunately, I have no experience with the Power90 program. I can only speak from my actual experiences, and if you like a cheap way to go I reccomend the Body For Life book (ignoring the website, and any other junk that comes along, just the book) which contains a full exercise and eating program that will get you rolling pretty fast.

Maybe there is a good review on the power90 out there? You aren't the first to have asked me aout the power90 though, so maybe I'll do some poking around and see if I can't get my hands on a used (dvds? is that what they are?) one and go through it.

Anonymous said...

Wow! Thanks for the quick response. If you find out anything please let me know. It is indeed a dvd program (that I'm looking for). Thanks again Savy.

Anonymous said...

First I would like to thank you for the time you have taken to help all these folks out....now maybe you can shed some light on my situation.
I ordered the bowflex revolution...and I ordered the p90x, is it something I can use together? I have been working out for years and both products make a lot of sense to me.
I have some dumbells so I know I could use them if needed.
I also can't seem to find a good pull up bar. Ive seen some that you an hang off a door frame but I'm sure that it wont hold me. I'm 6' 240lbs.
My thinking was to do lat pulldowns/ off the bowflex instead of the pull-ups.
Thank you for your time.

joe

Savy said...

Joe - I have a home gym as well and it's useless with P90X (but excellent for toggling between P90X and other programs I set up.) You need various free weights for all the resistance moves that aren't body weight dependent, so the bowflex wouldn't be any help there. The dumbbells you have will help you out though they may not be enough after a while (you may need a larger range?)

As far as the pull-up situation, I really think you need a pull up bar, or even a power tower station like I have (which can easily hold your weight without issue) There is a space issue with those things, but if you have the space, I love mine dearly (as it is also excellent for dips and such.)

The reason why I would use the pullups over the lat pull down is that when you are pulling yourself UP you are engaging your body differently than if you were just seated and pulling down. There is a lot more core work and whatnot going on. It's also not just straight standard pull-ups going on, it's various grips and widths, etc.

I notice that the basic chin-up bars (that latch over a door frame) say a max weight of 300 lbs, so it might be ok for you afterall. There are also one's that you can bolt to the studs in your wall. All of these options range more than the $5 thing from walmart, but once you start doing pull-ups, trust me - you will never stop doing them. They're too good a workout, and you start to feel like you are 10 again just because there is something about swinging around like a monkey. ;)

Good luck whatever you decide!

Greg said...

Hi-

Thanks for such a great write up. I was wondering where you got your power tower for $70.

Savy said...

I got my power towe from www.dickssportinggoods.com (they have an outlet here, so I bought mine in person.) Walmart also carries them for that price, as does target and www.amazon.com. Mine is fairly basic, but I like it. I know they have expensive ones (up to $300) that even have an assist feature on it, but as long as you have a chair handy, you don't need that.

I haven't seen them below $70, except when people sell them in the paper or on www.craigslist.com.

I hope that helps!

Anonymous said...

great review... very helpful

Anonymous said...

Xcuse me but is there a minimum age limit you would recomend for the p90x

Savy said...

Age limit - not really. Except that I absolutely do NOT reccomend it for someone under 18.

Other than that, it's a fitness level, not age level that matters. If you can meet the fitness test requirements (going through the whole thing all at once) according to their guidelines, and you are cleared by your doctor, just in case you have any underlying conditions or otherwise (as with any exercise program), then any adult of any age would be fine.

Anonymous said...

I am in the aviation industry and travel AT LEAST half the month which means I live in hotels around the country. If I bought some really good work out bands could I complete most of the workouts?

Savy said...

Yes, you could incorporate them all, actually. Though I really reccomend on the days you are at home and have access to the weights and chin-up bar that you use them whenever possible. The bands worked really well when I traveled for a month, and I was able to do every workout.

Anonymous said...

HI, thanks for going into such detail! I am an ex-college basketball player and want to try out this p90X product, BUT I have a bad knee. How much impact is involved?

Savy said...

Anon - It's not a ton of impact, but it depends on how your knee was injured. There are, for example, a lot of squats and one legged moves on one of the workouts. With my current knee injury, there is no way I could do that. But when my knee was just a "bad one" with no actual injury at the time - it was ok. It's all relative and rather hard to explain - while there isn't a lot of impact, there is a demand upon that joint.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for your feedback about your knee and the impact. I guess I can explain more. I don't have any cartilage in my right knee. I need to get my quad really strong and am able to do almost anything except running and jumping. I can jump a little, b/c I have done that in rehab, but not too much. I have done a lot of one legged exercises and squats. I am so interested in P90X! I love working out hard and running was my one way to do that, but now I have to find alternatives. I don't want to buy this and then not be able to do all of it or do enough to benefit. Any more advice that you have I would appreciate! Thanks so much!!!

Anonymous said...

Savy,

Wow, totally impressed with your review, and I thank you so much. I am considering the program, and I think I can do it. I am so glad I found your site. Thanks again!

Anonymous said...

I actually work for the call center that takes orders for all Beachbody products and I'm wondering what exactly you were talking about with the "discount"? NONE of Beachbody products are discounted. On the upsell of the max program (they ALL have an additional package where you get free gifts for purchasing the additional upgraded package) if you say no twice then they offer the upgraded package at 40% but not the original package.

Now if you purchase it online or through an online dealer, perhaps, but definitely not when you call me at the all center with the infommercial number.

Just thought I'd clear that up for anyone who reads this and then goes looking for a discount. Although if you get me, I'll know where you read that! LOL

Anonymous said...

Does this workout have to be done at home? I live in a small apartment and probably don't have the room to do this workout. Can the workouts be performed at a gym w/o the DVD in front of you? Basically, is it possible to just write down the workout and then perform it somewhere else?

Savy said...

Anon - honestly, it sounds like you could do a great deal of the program, but I don't want to be the one to make that call. You have an injury you really need to take care of. I believe P90X still has the money back gimick going though, right? So you could technically try it and if it doesn't work, return it. This does not have impact like running at all, that I can say without waffling. But beyond that in regards to your injury, I really am not sure what would be ok and what wouldn't. Only you and your doctor can decide that.

Annon-Call center - I ordered mine online via the P90X website, via a chat with a beachbody customer service representative. They DID discount the program. I am not the only one, as multiple people also got a discount (some on the phone line instead of the computer) on it and told me to ask for it. They may have stopped doing that and added freebees instead now - or whatever, but I didn't order it recently, and that was my experience. If they have changed to doing what you described, thanks for posting that - it'll be helpful to other people looking at the comments.

Anon - Honestly, you are better off getting a personalized program from your gym (hire a trainer who you get a good vibe from to set you up a program) than to try and write down the program to do at the gym. There really isn't any way to do this without the television.

bob said...

Thanks for the review. I'm this close to making the purchase. I'll be doing the workouts in my basement, and have one question: Does the plyometrics workout include a lot of vertical leaps? I have about 10 inches of clearance between my head and the basement joists, so wouldn't feel comfortable leaping, unfortunately. (Pull-ups are a problem, too, but I'm going to attach a bar to the joists, and should be able to do them if I keep my knees bent).
Thx so much!

elexa68 said...

savy, thank you so much for all of the useful information. I am wondering though, what is the P90X Lean? I can't find any other information regarding it besides what you write about. Is it a condensed version?

Savy said...

Bob - Yeah, it has enough leaps that you would have a serious concussion - is there anywhere you can stand where you could leap around?

Elexa - It's all a part of the P90X program. Lean and doubles are just different methods of combining the workouts that they have listed. Lean knocks off a harder training day in favor of extra cardio. Personally, I like the program in the "original" version best, after having a go at all three. lean is just as long as regular, doubles is just that - even MORE. But the program comes with a booklet and schedule telling you which ones to follow depending on your preference. Lean IS easier, but not by a lot.

Anonymous said...

thanks for the heads up on P90X. I am a sedatary 220 lb female just as you started out and I was actually contemplating trying this. When I looked at the before and after pictures, none of the befores looked like me. People looked already fit. I'll try to get fit first before trying this extreme workout. Again, Thanks

alley al said...

thanks. this is the best review of the p90x i found online.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the thorough review, Savy...

Beachbody / P90X also pushes their supplements - namely vitamins and a recovery drink... Any thoughts/comments on these products - or can I find similar products I might need at a GNC type of store?

Thanks again...

Savy said...

I am not a big fan of supplements. I have tried various things, and in short - they don't do a great deal. Here are some of my opinions:

fatburners : waste of money, and often dangerous.

Creatine CAN be helpful to some, but you also need to use caution and common sense and realize it bloats the heck out of you, AND you need to be eating enough to support muscle growth.

Recovery drinks : These are good if you use them for the purpose intended. After or during exercise, it's a fast uptake that they're after with the drink. Get in and supply the muscle before it has breakdown issues. The whole area is also still debated. I like them for the recovery after a brutal workout, or if I'm in a bind with one of my meals (I eat 6 times a day) - it's better than a snickers bar.

Bars - most of them are JUNK! Go eat and apple!

Vitamins - Clearly this is a much debated topic even within our own government. You need to be careful because most foods are hypped up on vitamins and you don't want to OVERDO them. If you are eating a very clean and unrefined diet, you might consideri vitamins, but it's likely if you are eating balanced you don't need them then as well.

I could go on, but the truth is, supplements are ALWAYS suspect. Be careful. They are NOT regulated. If anyone tells you that you NEED a supplement, they're lying. If you need a pick me up, don't reach for the supplement, have a healthy meal or even a cup of coffee (because it's less caffeine than a lot of the supplements out there).

For me, personally - I use a meal replacement/recovery drink now and then. It's a generic type, cheap, and not P90X. It has a balance of protein and carbs (I think it's called Nature's Best PerfectRx... it's been a while) - a little higher on the protein, and I don't hate the taste. I use zone bars if I get caught in a major jam out and about without options, because I can grab one of those anywhere. And that's it. I have pretty much tried everything, just to see, and honestly, the money is better spent on something else.

Supplements are just that, supplements - not necessary. Not really. Yes, some have small benefits at times, but for the newbie, it's not worth breaking it down too far. It'll put you in a coma. So, in short - you don't need anything, ignore the hype. The recovery drink, or one like it (there are MANY on the market - you can check out stuff online at places like www.netrition.com, www.fitrx.com, www.vitaglo.com, etc... and find one that works for you if you feel it would benefit you.)

And lastly, because this is really important:
http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/2002/202_supp.html

Tips for the Savvy Supplement User: Making Informed Decisions

The choice to use a dietary supplement can be a wise decision that provides health benefits. However, under certain circumstances, these products may be unnecessary for good health or they may even create unexpected risks. The Food and Drug Administration, health professionals, and other health-related organizations receive many inquiries each year from consumers seeking health-related information, especially about dietary supplements. Clearly, people choosing to supplement their diets with herbals, vitamins, minerals, or other substances want to know more about the products they choose so that they can make informed decisions about them.

Given the abundance and conflicting nature of information now available about dietary supplements, you may need help to sort the reliable information from the questionable. The FDA's Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition has prepared these tips and resources to help you become a savvy dietary supplement user. The principles underlying these tips are similar to those principles a savvy consumer would use for any product.

Basic Points to Consider
Do I need to think about my total diet?
Yes. Dietary supplements are intended to supplement the diets of some people, but not to replace the balance of the variety of foods important to a healthy diet. While you need enough nutrients, too much of some nutrients can cause problems. You can find information on the functions and potential benefits of vitamins and minerals, as well as upper safe limits for nutrients, on the National Academy of Sciences Web site at ww.iom.edu/iom/iomhome.nsf/Pages/FNB+Reports.

Should I check with my doctor or health-care provider before using a supplement?
This is a good idea, especially for certain population groups. Dietary supplements may not be risk-free under certain circumstances. If you are pregnant, nursing a baby, or have a chronic medical condition, such as diabetes, hypertension or heart disease, be sure to consult your doctor or pharmacist before purchasing or taking any supplement. While vitamin and mineral supplements are widely used and generally considered safe for children, you may wish to check with your doctor or pharmacist before giving these or any other dietary supplements to your child. If you plan to use a dietary supplement in place of drugs or in combination with any drug, tell your health-care provider first. Many supplements contain active ingredients that have strong biological effects and their safety is not always assured in all users. If you have certain health conditions and take these products, you may be placing yourself at risk.

Some supplements may interact with prescription and over-the-counter (OTC) medicines.

Taking a combination of supplements or using these products together with medications (whether prescription or OTC drugs) could, under certain circumstances, produce adverse effects, some of which could be life-threatening. Be alert to advisories about these products, whether taken alone or in combination. For example: Coumadin (a prescription medicine), ginkgo biloba (an herbal supplement), aspirin (an OTC drug) and vitamin E (a vitamin supplement) can each thin the blood, and taking any of these products together can increase the potential for internal bleeding. Combining St.

John's wort with certain HIV drugs significantly reduces their effectiveness. St. John's wort may also reduce the effectiveness of prescription drugs for heart disease, depression, seizures, certain cancers, or oral contraceptives.

Some supplements can have unwanted effects during surgery. It is important to fully inform your doctor about the vitamins, minerals, herbals or any other supplements you are taking, especially before elective surgery. You may be asked to stop taking these products at least two to three weeks ahead of the procedure to avoid potentially dangerous supplement/drug interactions--such as changes in heart rate, blood pressure and increased bleeding--that could adversely affect the outcome of your surgery.

Adverse effects from the use of dietary supplements should be reported to the FDA.

You, your health-care provider, or anyone may report a serious adverse event or illness directly to the FDA if you believe it is related to the use of any dietary supplement product. Report these concerns to MedWatch, the FDA's safety information and adverse event reporting system, by calling 1-800-FDA-1088, by fax at 1-800-FDA-0178 or online at www.fda.gov/medwatch/how.htm.

The FDA would like to know whenever you think a product caused you a serious problem, even if you are not sure that the product was the cause, and even if you do not visit a doctor or clinic. In addition to communicating with the FDA online or by phone, you may use the MedWatch form available from the FDA Web site.

Who is responsible for ensuring the safety and efficacy of dietary supplements?

Under the law, manufacturers of dietary supplements are responsible for making sure their products are safe before they go to market. They are also responsible for determining that the claims on their labels are accurate and truthful. Dietary supplement products are not reviewed by the government before they are marketed, but the FDA has the responsibility to take action against any unsafe dietary supplement product that reaches the market. If the FDA can prove that claims on marketed dietary supplement products are false and misleading, the agency may take action against products with such claims.

Tips on Searching the Web
When searching on the Web, try using directory sites of respected organizations, rather than doing blind searches with a search engine. Ask yourself the following questions:

Who operates the site?
Is the site run by the government, a university, or a reputable medical or health-related association (such as the American Medical Association, American Diabetes Association, American Heart Association, National Institutes of Health, National Academy of Sciences, or the FDA)? Is the information written or reviewed by qualified health professionals, experts in the field, academia, government or the medical community?

What is the purpose of the site?
Is the purpose of the site to objectively educate the public or just to sell a product? Be aware of practitioners or organizations whose main interest is in marketing products, either directly or through sites with which they are linked. Commercial sites should clearly distinguish scientific information from advertisements. Most nonprofit and government sites contain no advertising, and access to the site and materials offered are usually free.

What is the source of the information and does it have any references?
Has the study been reviewed by recognized scientific experts and published in reputable peer-reviewed scientific journals, such as The New England Journal of Medicine? Does the information say "some studies show…" or does it state where the study is listed so that you can check the authenticity of the references? For example, can the study be found in the National Library of Medicine's database of literature citations (www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed/)?

Is the information current?
Check the date when the material was posted or updated. Often new research or other findings are not reflected in old material; for example, side effects or interactions with other products or new evidence that might have changed earlier thinking. Ideally, health and medical sites should be updated frequently.

How reliable are the Internet and e-mail solicitations?
While the Internet is a rich source of health information, it is also an easy vehicle for spreading myths, hoaxes and rumors about alleged news, studies, products or findings. To avoid falling prey to such hoaxes, be skeptical and watch out for overly emphatic language with UPPERCASE LETTERS and lots of exclamation points!!!! Beware of such phrases such as: "This is not a hoax" or "Send this to everyone you know."

More Tips and To-Do's
Ask yourself: Does it sound too good to be true?
Do the claims for the product seem exaggerated or unrealistic? Are there simplistic conclusions being drawn from a complex study to sell a product? While the Web can be a valuable source of accurate, reliable information, it also has a wealth of misinformation that may not be obvious. Learn to distinguish hype from evidence-based science. Nonsensical lingo can sound very convincing. Also, be skeptical about anecdotal information from persons who have no formal training in nutrition or botanicals, or personal testimonials (from store employees, friends, or online chat rooms and message boards) about incredible benefits or results obtained from using a product. Question these people on their training and knowledge in nutrition or medicine.

Think twice about chasing the latest headline.
Sound health advice is generally based on a body of research, not a single study. Be wary of results claiming a "quick fix" that depart from previous research and scientific beliefs. Keep in mind science does not proceed by dramatic breakthroughs, but by taking many small steps, slowly building towards a consensus. Furthermore, news stories about the latest scientific study, especially those on TV or radio, are often too brief to include important details that may apply to you or allow you to make an informed decision.

Check your assumptions about the following:
Questionable Assumption #1 -- "Even if a product may not help me, it at least won't hurt me."
It's best not to assume that this will always be true. When consumed in high enough amounts, for a long enough time, or in combination with certain other substances, all chemicals can be toxic, including nutrients, plant components, and other biologically active ingredients.

Questionable Assumption #2 -- "When I see the term 'natural,' it means that a product is healthful and safe."

Consumers can be misled if they assume this term assures wholesomeness, or that these food-like substances necessarily have milder effects, which makes them safer to use than drugs. The term "natural" on labels is not well-defined and is sometimes used ambiguously to imply unsubstantiated benefits or safety. For example, many weight-loss products claim to be "natural" or "herbal" but this doesn't necessarily make them safe. Their ingredients may interact with drugs or may be dangerous for people with certain medical conditions.

Questionable Assumption #3 -- "A product is safe when there is no cautionary information on the product label."
Dietary supplement manufacturers may not necessarily include warnings about potential adverse effects on the labels of their products. If consumers want to know about the safety of a specific dietary supplement, they should contact the manufacturer of that brand directly. It is the manufacturer's responsibility to determine that the supplement it produces or distributes is safe and that there is substantiated evidence that the label claims are truthful and not misleading.

Questionable Assumption #4 -- "A recall of a harmful product guarantees that all such harmful products will be immediately and completely removed from the marketplace."

A product recall of a dietary supplement is voluntary and, while many manufacturers do their best, a recall does not necessarily remove all harmful products from the marketplace.
Contact the manufacturer for more information about the specific product that you are purchasing.

If you cannot tell whether the product you are purchasing meets the same standards as those used in the research studies you read about, check with the manufacturer or distributor. Ask to speak to someone who can address your questions, some of which may include:
What information does the firm have to substantiate the claims made for the product? Be aware that sometimes firms supply so-called "proof" of their claims by citing undocumented reports from satisfied consumers, or "internal" graphs and charts that could be mistaken for evidence-based research.
Does the firm have information to share about tests it has conducted on the safety or efficacy of the ingredients in the product?

Does the firm have a quality control system in place to determine if the product actually contains what is stated on the label and is free of contaminants?
Has the firm received any adverse event reports from consumers using their products?

Note: You may obtain more information on how the FDA regulates dietary supplements and on the manufacturers' responsibilities for the products they market at "Questions and Answers," www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/ds-faq.html.


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For More Information
The following are selected references about dietary supplements that may help users understand and evaluate information encountered on the Internet or in the marketplace. For additional tips on finding and evaluating health information on the Internet, see www.cfsan.fda.gov/ ~dms/ds-savvy.html#resources.

Product Claims and Labeling

Claims That Can Be Made for Conventional Foods and Dietary Supplements
www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/hclaims.html
An FDA explanation of the various kinds of claims that can be made for foods and supplements (Updated April 2001).
Staking a Claim to Good Health
www.fda.gov/fdac/features/1998/698_labl.html
Reviews the health claims that the FDA has authorized for use on food labels. (FDA Consumer, November-December 1998.)
FDA Dietary Supplement Questions and Answers
www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/ds-faq.html
Provides information about what dietary supplements are and how they are regulated, including the labeling and claims that can be made for supplements.
'Miracle' Health Claims: Add a Dose of Skepticism
www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/health/frdheal.htm
This joint Federal Trade Commission (FTC)/FDA information piece focuses on how to assess claims and seek advice and avoid becoming a victim of health fraud. The information discusses how to minimize being cheated out of money, time, and health (September 2001).
The Story of the Laws Behind the Labels
www.cfsan.fda.gov/~lrd/history1.html
This article on the history of food and drug laws provides useful insights on the regulation of health claims over the years (FDA Consumer, June 1981).
Advertising Dietary Supplements

Dietary Supplements: An Advertising Guide for Industry
www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/dietsupp.htm
This document describes the factors that the FTC takes into account in deciding whether an ad is truthful or misleading. You can use them to judge the advertisements you see.
Dietary Supplements and Kids

Promotions for Kids' Dietary Supplements Leaves Sour Taste
www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/features/kidsupp.htm
FTC article, May 2000.
Other Sources

MedWatch
www.fda.gov/medwatch/safety.htm
FDA safety information and adverse event reporting program.
The Food and Nutrition Board
www.iom.edu/iom/iomhome.nsf/Pages/FNB+Reports
The Food and Nutrition Board (FN of the National Academy of Sciences, as part of its mission, establishes principles and guidelines for adequate dietary intake. The FNB issues reports such as "Dietary Reference Intakes: Thiamin, Riboflavin, Niacin, Vitamin B6, Folate, Vitamin B12, Pantothenic Acid, Biotin, and Choline."
Nutrition.gov
www.nutrition.gov/home/index.php3
Nutrition.gov, a new federal resource, provides easy access to all online federal government information on nutrition, including dietary supplements.
Medline Plus Health Information: Vitamin and Mineral Supplements
www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/vitaminandmineralsupplements.html
Medline Plus Health Information is a service of the National Library of Medicine, National Institutes of Health (NIH) that provides information on health topics, including vitamin and mineral supplements.
International Bibliographic Information on Dietary Supplements (IBIDS)
http://ods.od.nih.gov/databases/ibids.html
The International Bibliographic Information on Dietary Supplements (IBIDS) is a database of published international scientific literature on dietary supplements, including vitamins, minerals, and botanicals maintained by the NIH Office of Dietary Supplements.
National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine, NIH
http://nccam.nih.gov
The National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM) at the NIH (www.nih.gov) is dedicated to exploring complementary and alternative healing practices in the context of rigorous science; training CAM researchers; and disseminating authoritative information.
For updates on dietary supplements, see www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/supplmnt.html.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the review. I'm on the fence and did not know about the fit test. Expect for the pull ups I can do the test with no problems. I am currently 80 lbs. beyond my ideal weight. Just finished a police academy in Dec. 06 and won the PT staff award. Wondering what you think? I will purchase the BFL book anyway. Looking more for wieght loss, but thought it would be a challenge.

thanks agian for your time

Savy said...

Anon - I can't do more than 4 unassisted pull ups myself, and quite frankly it took a long time to get to that point. You can assist yourself on the pullups with a chair, the DVD actually shows you how. There are SO many pull-ups, I think it really expects you to. If you can do the whole fit test from start to finish, then go for it.

On the subject of more weightloss, that's trickier. P90X is more a refining program, for lack of a better word. yes, you absolutely can lose\weight, but is it a good weightloss route? It really depends on you, I guess.

Weightloss is about what you do in the kitchen, and then creating a deficit in your overall intake of calories through eating less, or burning up the difference with exercise - but it is a little more complicated than that. You also need to eat enough at the right times to maintain a cruising metabolism, eat the right things so you feel good, and eat to support your activities. It's a balancing act overall. You change your diet for weightloss (and to fuel your body apropriately), you exercise to improve your body inside and out - it may sound like the same thing, but it's not. Though, the two create the strongest partnership and results. I think you might find the BFL book helpful for the first amount of wieghtloss (and easier, because it's less demanding, but that doesn't mean it's less effective) and maybe P90X to round everything out afterwards.

But you need to understand that my opinion is just some woman out in the ether or the internet. I'm not your trainer, or your doctor. So you need to make this decision an informed one for yourself - OK? Good luck to you!

Anonymous said...

Just wondering what order you are suppose to do the dvd's for each week?

Savy said...

Anon - it comes with a schedule laid out for the whole 13 weeks, so you don't have to figure that out. :) It changes from week to week.

Anonymous said...

hi, i loved this review. i don't remember seeing anything on what sizes of dumbells to buy. it seems you should buy at least a couple of different weights. i'm 6ft, 190lbs right now and would love to get to 180lbs. i'm fairly fit and probably equally as strong. what would you suggest for dumbells? i don't really want to buy the nautilus like "dial a weight" dumbell but will if i have to. thanks for any help

Savy said...

Anon - about the dumbbells, that really depends on you. I would suggest watching the DVD first to get an idea of what is going on and then purchase. I use interchangable plated dumbbells, so they can be anything between 3 lbs to 150, so that isn't an issue. On the dvds they show a full set, but that isn't necessary persey. Also you can do the workouts with bands instead, they show you how during all the DVDs. You don't have to buy the "dial a weight" thing. Honestly, i think everyone should have a nice set of dumbbells. :)

Anonymous said...

thank you so much for your quick response and all the help.

Dave said...

Great review, haven't seen anything like this elsewhere.

Dave

Anonymous said...

"[...] simply because of your testosterone and Y gene."

It's a chromosome, smarty-pants.

Anonymous said...

I saw the P90X on the infomercial and ordered it. I was really excited and bypassed the fitness test and started it the next day. I'm finishing up my first week. I'm 5'8 and 165lbs and usually play raquetball a few times a week. I'm not gym fit but am a little discouraged by the comments that this program is not for beginners. I am going through the CD's fine and not killing myself over it but not being a pansy either. The only one that I had trouble with was the Plyo CD. That one is 'the mother of all workouts, for sure. I only got through 1/2 of that one and felt it in my legs for the next few days. My question is, am I wasting my time with this because I am not already 'fit'? Or if I keep it up, will I still get results with the P90X? I didnt know about the other beachbody programs (P90), until after I started this program. I love this program and am having alot of fun with the workouts. I have a couple of weakspots but overall can keep up. Should I downgrade to the P90 or stick with the P90X. I'm generally not a weak person and adjust easily. What do you think?

Savy said...

Anon - nothing is ever a waste of time. It sounds like you are adjusting the program to your own level, and are fit enough to keep up for the majority. Keep at it! One of the things I liked about this program is that it lets YOU set your own intensity level. Stick to it!

Anonymous said...

I hate that I read these comments only after I purchased the product which arrived today. I am not the most fit, need to loose 10 lbs. I have worked with a trainer and lost 20 lbs already. I selected this video b/c it was the only one that I have seen that used many of the training techniques that I used w/ my trainer. Do you think that I can use this dvd and focus on the cardio, kenpo or the plyometric to get me to a place where I can progress into the minimal levels of the DVD?

Savy said...

Anon - Don't count yourself out yet, OK? The upside is that you can work to your own level. Watch the DVD's, go through them, and see how YOU feel. You don't have to be in perfect shape for these :) Give it a shot, and adjust as you need to.

Jeff said...

Can you do P90X at the gym?

Savy said...

Jeff - no. Sorry.

Jeff said...

Thank, but why not?

(By the way: Nice artwork)

Savy said...

Jeff - The reason is that you do it in time and whatnot to the DVD prompting. It's a timing issue, as well as needing to see the tv. I suppose if you wrote it all out (actually it has a worksheet) and figured out the timing for yourself you could on a couple of the DVD's, but the yoga, kenpo, plyo, etc isn't going to work. Thanks for the compliment on my art too. :)

Jeff said...

Thanks savy. I do have one other quetion.. Is this workout intended to be used only for 90 days and then maintain results with another workout, or it is intended to be done always in 90 day intervals. Thanks again. Your pics are inspiring.

Savy said...

Jeff, you can alternate it with another workout, go through another round of 90 days, or choose one of the other configurations of the program (there are three). My own personal preference is that I alternate it with other plans I have (since I am personal trainer, I get to design my own programs) and I cycle it through once or twice a year. Others have found that they simply like staying with it for the long haul, because you adjust your own intensity levels, you are always challenged. Some find that they move on afterwards altogether (yet you rarely see used copies for sale, so those would seem to be a minority.)

It's variable, and a personal choice balanced with what results you are after specifically.

Gunny said...

I am a 38 year old male with an athletic background and an athletic build. I workout 6 days a week. weights & cardio (alternating) two days a week, the "body for life" running routine two days a week and 30 minutes of straight 65% MHR cycling twice a week. I can feel my metabolism changing and it takes more effort to get my heart rate up so I know that I'm making 'athletic' progress with my workouts, but I think I'm not losing much if any fat...and I'm certain that's a product of my kitchen habits. I know that diet plays a majority role in the way you LOOK (can't see rock-hard abs under a beer belly)...so without writing a book what's the best advice you can give to the determined male who seems to have the exercise part figured out but now needs to know how (what and when) to eat?

Savy said...

Gunny - No book huh? ;) Ok, well I am a firm believer of NOT having 3 meals a day, but 5-7 small balanced ones. I also believe in a portion of protein at each meal as well. This helps balance out your blood sugar (i.e. cravings) and whatnot. Obviously it coms down to calories - have you tracked what you are eating now? If you are maintaining it's easy to drop the intake by around 250-500 calories a day. If you know BFL, you know his reccomended eating pattern and ratios, I actually agree with that.

What to eat : Unprocessed things. Fresh fruits and veggies, whole grains, FF cottage cheese, eggs, skim milk (careful with this one though), lean meats, water, etc.

When to eat : about every 2-3 hours. REGARDLESS of when you go to bed. Sometimes I eat close to bedtime when I am running behind on my meals, but if I don't I'm worse off the next day.

If you want me to be more specific, just let me know. :)

Savy said...

Oh, and you can play with your ratios and find out what works best for you. For example, I find I cut fat really well when I eat a carb/protein/fat ratio of 40/40/20. But if I am maintaining I like it to be around 50/30/20 or 50/20/30 depending on how I am feeling. This is a ratio of your calories for the whole day. You can use www.fitday.com for free and figure this out.

gunny said...

One thing that I've become fond of is oatmeal in the morning mixed with 2 eggs and some splenda. I am not familiar with the BFL diet as I read the book a long time ago along with Atkins and South Beach, but I will revisit it and start there.

What is the recommended means (and time frame) to drop fat fast in that last span before an event? I'm not a body builder, and I don't want to be on an extreme diet all the time, but I've heard of compettitors changing things up a few weeks (or some time frame) before an event to get ripped.

Thanks again for the guidance.

-Gunny

Savy said...

Gunny - competitor diets are extreme, and unhealthy - even in the short run. Competitors know it full well before they engage in it, and even they do not reccomend it except for the sport itself. You don't need the fastest route to the least amount of bodyfat, this leads to exhaustion, and doesn't support your muscle maintenance (competitors know that they will lose muscle mass when they do that.) Dropping fat fast is never the answer, and is unhealthy. Changing your diet to a permanent way of eating is the only way to achieve real long term results.

This doesn't mean you can't lose 1-2 lbs a week consistently, healthfully, and really chisel your frame. Look up the BFL eating style, it'll give you a basic blue print of where to start. Most men drop pretty quickly on that eating program as it is. My husband lost around 22lbs, I believe, in 12 weeks following that eating plan (WITH the "freeday"), and chiseled everything down to a well defined 6-pack.

I'm sorry, but I cannot reccomend or advise in any aspect of rapid fatloss, because it's not achievable in a healthy manner. I have friends who are competitors, and watching what they go through is tough. Ask any of them, and they will tell you the same and not to do it unless there is a distinct need such as a competition.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for your feedback. I will look up the BFL book.

I have another question ... Juicers. There's no lack of propaganda from the juicer company but I haven't heard much about how natural juice is or isn't a good nutritional supplement. and for argument's sake I'm referring to Blueberry, raspberry, strawberry, kiwi and carrot juice...not the plain apple and orange. I know that there's some nutritional value becuase it's fresh juice from fresh fruits and I know that we're missing the fiber so we need to supplement that with real fruit and veggies...but is it only hype? am I fooling myself thinking that the daily juices is really giving me nutrition above and beyond the norm?

gunny

Savy said...

Juicers annoy me. They get rid of so much value in a food. Eat the whole apple, eat the whole kiwi, skip the juice, it's doing nothing for you to throw the good stuff out.

Toivo said...

I hate yoga. Don't see any value in it.

Tell me what the point of it is beyond ruining my joints for later in life.

I assume I can skip the 90 minute session of yoga in each week's schedule? What would be the recommended replacement. I rollerskate 3 hours a week, would that do?

Brian said...

I was thinking of purchasing the p90x. I started the gym in Jan. Will this program help me build mass? Would I be better off at the gym? Is it possible to do both or would that be a waste of time?

Anonymous said...

Great Review! One question. I have standard 8ft ceilings. I am 6'4" tall, will I be bashing my skull for an hour a day??

Rob